Interview with Joan d’Arc

Below is a snippet of an interview that Jarrah gave to Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader.

Joan d’Arc: Jarrah, thank you for your unflagging duty to carry on the moon hoax research for the next generation. It’s very important that this information remains available. So, who were the grandfathers of the Apollo Hoax Theory? One of them, I presume, was Ralph René, author of the 1994 book NASA Mooned America?

Jarrah White: Yes, Ralph René was indeed one of those grandfathers. It is interesting to note that a lot of people assume I am the grandson of Jack White. In actuality I am known as “The Grandson” because I picked up from where Bill Kaysing left off. Kaysing was known as “The Grandfather of the Apollo Hoax Theory” because he wrote and published the first book on the subject back in 1974.

I guess you could say that I now take on after Ralph too. Ralph was still alive and kicking when I became “The Grandson.” Before he died he had sent me his various research materials, such as the document that NOAA sent him during the writing of his book, and lawsuit papers from the Kaysing/Lovell trial. It was as though he knew his time was near and he had nominated me to carry on after him.

d’Arc: You do indeed look like rock singer, Jack White! When did you first meet Ralph René and how did you two come to be such close friends?

White: Ralph and I met over the phone many years ago when I first tried to obtain a copy of NASA Mooned America. As he put it, the post office had done more damage to him than any other government entity, and at first there were some troubles getting it sent. But the delivery problems were soon sorted.

After that he and I maintained communication over both telephone and email. I would often do everything in my power to help him whenever I could; be it digging up information he was in need of, sending video footage that he tried to obtain, or just generally help introduce his book to a wider audience. I always recommended his book to others and not once did I use his research without stating where that research came from.

Before I brought my MoonFaker series out, the only voice Ralph ever had through YouTube was his brief appearance on the Fox special and that disgraceful Penn & Teller episode that tried to portray him as some crackpot. That all changed when I released the MoonFaker series. Ralph had granted me many hours of his time for various over-the-phone interviews, which provided great insight for my videos. I can’t stress to you enough how far I would go out of my way just to make his research heard and prove that his points are indeed valid.

If you would like to see some hugely significant videos that Ralph contributed to, I recommend MoonFaker: Carrying The Liar, MoonFaker: Exhibit C, MoonFaker: Rocks & Crocks and MoonFaker: Radioactive Anomaly.

d’Arc: René died by suicide on December 10, 2008. You had spoken to him just the day before? How did he seem at that time? Did his suicide shock you?

White: I had spoken to him over the phone on November 30th. He had stated over email he was dying, but really he meant he was in a lot of pain and knew his time would come sooner or later. As you might already know, Ralph spent many years of his life doing manual labor and subsequently became crippled by arthritis in both knees. He suffered from this pain for the remaining years of his life, simply because there is very poor health care in the United States. American hospitals are not run like they are in Australia, where a patient simply walks into the clinic and gets the help he needs. In the states, patients are often refused service, be it medication or surgery, and the corrupt health insurance companies do everything in their power to deny people health cover.

Ralph was in desperate need of hip-joint surgery, but the doctors first subjected him to a pre-operation stress test. Basically, if you don’t pass the test, you don’t get the surgery. As Ralph described it, “It was a test that an Olympic athlete with a sprained ankle couldn’t pass, let alone a man on a walker.” The last thing I said to him over the phone was, “Ralph this may sound like a stupid question, but how much longer do you think you have left?” and his exact reply was, “As long as I can hold out.”

He continued sending emails in the following days. The last I received from him was on December 9th (Sydney time). After that I didn’t hear from him. It wasn’t until a week later that I learned that Ralph had committed suicide.

From what I had been told it all started on December 8th. Ralph was driving with his girlfriend when there was a terrible accident and the van flipped. Both were injured but alive. Ralph was taken to the hospital but taken home the next day by a neighbour. The crash had worsened Ralph’s regular hip pain to the point he became an insomniac. On the morning of December 10, he called up his neighbour to ask where his van was. Later that night he asked his girlfriend to go home early. The next day another neighbour found his body. He also found Ralph’s will and a box of goodbye postcards that he had prepared in advance.

My initial reaction was shock and disbelief. Shock because Ralph was a very dear friend to me, and disbelief because he explicitly stated in his book that he was not suicidal. But I guess even the non-suicidal have their limits. I’ve come to learn that when one is in that much pain and there is no other option, it’s no longer suicide but relief through release. At the end of the day it was ultimately the car crash that pushed him over the edge. I strongly believe that had he not had that accident he would most likely still be here today.

d’Arc: Why have you chosen to take on this work? Did you realize at first that you would be the focus of so much anger from the mainstream scientific establishment? Why do you think people get so upset at this research?

White: As a kid I wanted to be the first man on Mars. It was my dream and I spent my life studying astronomy, collecting space books, magazines and newspaper articles, taping documentaries and news reports off the telly. Back then I believed that men had been to the moon.

Later I learned of the Apollo moon landing conspiracy theory, but I took it with a grain of salt. I looked back to everything I had already learned about astronomy, I read the conspiracy material, and of course, I came upon website after website trying to prove that the moon missions were real.

In reading through these pro-NASA websites it quickly became apparent that the webmasters in question were not trying to offer any refuting evidence at all, but rather muddy the waters, lead astray those who are without ready access to the conspiracy research or even the source material, and generally spread false rumors and incite unfounded hatred against anyone who doubts Apollo. It’s propaganda, which is why I subsequently refer to these individuals as ‘propagandists.’

Continued in PARANOIA: The Conspiracy Reader. Volume 1.   (scroll half-way down)
Also contains an interview with Ralph René, 2/3rds the way down.